Something About THAT
The various messages sent,
Have always invited confusion.
Whether or not intented or meant.
OR prevent the increase of misunderstanding.
Who will begin to examine from where,
These tensions created to never end.
Those of devout and faithfulness profess,
A strict adherence to a Christianity confessed.
Although a kept alliance with their closest ally,
Who declared and named them all Christians...
From the beginning when Jesus was 'then' a Jew,
Are not themselves Christians at all.
Or admit to beliefs in the doctrines of God.
'What are you implying with your remarks? '
I am not 'implying anything.
I base my statement on a religious fact.
If you knew anything about your history,
You should have known 'something' about THAT!
Those who are Baptist,
Sing about 'Zion'.
The Jewish homeland that is symbolic of Judaism.
What does it mean...
When they sing we're marching upward to Zion?
Why do conflicts exist if not in our minds they sit?
'What are you implying with your remarks? '
I'm not implying anything at all.
I'd just like to know from where these conflicts start.
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Marching To Zion
Come ye that love the Lord
And let your joys be known
Join in a song with sweet accord
Join in a song with sweet accord
And thus surround the throne
And thus surround the throne
We're marching to Zion
Beautiful beautiful Zion
We're marching upward to Zion
The beautiful city of God
Then let our songs abound,And ev'ry tear
be dry
We're marching through Immanuel's ground
We're marching through Immanuel's ground
To fairer worlds on high
To fairer worlds on high
We're marching to Zion
Beautiful beautiful Zion
We're marching upward to Zion
The beautiful city of God
We're marching to Zion
Beautiful beautiful Zion
We're marching upward to Zion
The beautiful city of God
song performed by by Amy Grant
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I was obliged to stand there, holding the leash of this creature for their welcoming publicity shots, implying that this was some kind of image the decided to have of me.
quote by Barbara Steele
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Zion
The Doorkeepers of Zion,
They do not always stand
In helmet and whole armour,
With halberds in their hand;
But, being sure of Zion,
And all her mysteries,
They rest awhile in Zion,
Sit down and smile in Zion;
Ay, even jest in Zion;
In Zion, at their ease.
The Gatekeepers of Baal,
They dare not sit or lean,
But fume and fret and posture
And foam and curse between;
For being bound to Baal,
Whose sacrifice is vain,
Their rest is scant with Baal,
They glare and pant for Baal,
They mouth and rant for Baal,
For Baal in their pain!
But we will go to Zion,
By choice and not through dread,
With these our present comrades
And those our present dead;
And, being free of Zion
In both her fellowships,
Sit down and sup in Zion --
Stand up and drink in Zion
Whatever cup in Zion
Is offered to our lips!
poem by Rudyard Kipling
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Obama specializes in knocking down straw men. ""I reject the view that says our problems will simply take care of themselves,"" he said, implying that's the view of Republicans. It's the view of almost no one.
quote by Fred Barnes
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There was very little suicide among the men of the North, because every man considered it his duty to get killed, not to kill himself; and to kill himself would have seemed cowardly, as implying fear of being killed by others.
quote by Lafcadio Hearn
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A rant about 'unacceptable'...
Today, and every day - someone booped!
Someone who's paid a lot, not to..
An apology, a resignation of their tarnished
position in our public life? Don't
make me laugh...
No - they grandstand, chest inflated
with their moral worthiness -
'This is absolutely unacceptable...'
implying, some minion... escaped my notice...
of course would never countenance...
...torocaca! That's exactly what
you just did - accepted it...
It's another variation of the now familiar
response to some organisation's failing -
don't admit it; just issue
(as you scrabble shamelessly through the scree
for the moral high ground, way beyond your reach...)
a mission statement - 'Our company upholds
the very highest standards of public life...'
blah blah... it didn't did it? ...
OK, having said that,
at the end of the day,
and other clichés that stick on our tongue
like an ice lolly that another has already licked...
whew....
poem by Michael Shepherd
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Tao's A Verb
eastern sages say
good evil
pleasure pain
all extremes
experience same,
implying thereby
balance is better
than wherever
we happen to be
right now.
a reason
i suppose
one sometimes spots
eastern sages chuckling
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The Moment I Say Chocolate
The moment I say chocolate.
Immediately,
You are going to envision color.
And not taste.
You are going to anticipate a deliciousness,
From your mind that will not escape.
Your mouth will water and you will begin to drool.
The moment I say chocolate.
That is what you will do.
And I may not be referring to my nakedness,
Or sex with you at all.
I may be implying a preference.
To lick the remaining remnants of a batter mixed,
From a bowl for a cake being prepared to bake.
The moment I say chocolate
You lower your eyes,
Then teasingly walk away.
poem by Lawrence S. Pertillar
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I feel that Christian music is a subculture directed towards the Christians. It's not really being exposed to non-Christians and it's not really created for non-Christians, so non-Christians almost never hear any of this music.
quote by Larry Norman
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What We See
Can we believe in our eyes when we see?
Is there a reason to understand for us to be?
Being can act like experience, and thoughts will dither,
Implying safe contracts and wise descriptions.
The understood men have a question to ask
And that is: Why do we live and then not?
As they are honoured by their own learning,
It frightens, the answer scares and breeds fear.
One is fearless and knows that death will accompany us
To the after-life, as a religion states, as people relate
And how children imagine.
poem by Naveed Akram
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Western Paper
Women throughout history have been generally looked upon as being the weaker sex, and to be the lesser of the two. The Old Testament and the New Testament gives two different views on how women were viewed in each of their times. Throughout these two, changes to christianity occured, and that is the justification behind the differences.
The Old Testament of the bible gives a description of how women were viewed during that time. It depicts what would now be considered obsurd practices of treating women. For example, women that were not married were not allowed to leave their fathers house, women were viewed mainly for child bearing, and that they were not allowed to appear in public venues. Specific references in the book of Genesis show that women were objectified and often used as sexual objects. After doing some research, the book of Exodus reveals that women were considered property of her father untill she became married, where then, ownership would transfer and she would become property of her new husband. Women were treated unjustly and unfairly during this time, and were regarded as being 'dirty' for being a woman.
The New Testament has somewhat of a mixed view on the equality of women to men, but it certainly gives more credit and justification to women being equal. There are still references in the New Testament to how women are considered unequal to men, but there are also new thoughts and ideas of equality of both sexes. Most blatently put, the book of John states that 'All people, men and women, have the opportunity to become children of god' implying that it was all inclusive, meaning both genders, all races, and all sexual orientations. In the same relation, the book of Galatians quotes 'There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus'.
The bible as a whole has mixed opinions on alot of things, and the standing of women is one of the indescrepencies that is shown. In the Old Testament more than the New Testament, women were objectified and looked down upon. They were viewed as property and as sexual objects. Men were quoted talking about having sex with a women against their will, and it also stated strict restrictions on how a woman should live her life. The New Testament began to shed a little bit more light on the subject, and started giving a little bit more credit and respect to women. Women, as far back as biblical times, have always been thought of as the lesser of the sexes. The contrast is prevalent between the standards of women in the Old and New Testament of the bible.
The arguement arises as to how sexist the bible is. Although I do not agree with the statement that the bible is sexist, I do believe that the way that the bible portrays women is unfair and that it is wrong to objectify women, but the bible ultimately says that God created men and women equal, and that Jesus Christ, the son of God, died for the sins of all people, not just for men.
Over the course of nature, and all the time of human existance on earth, women have be subjected to unfair treatment. The Old Testament gives a more harsh aspect to it, and the New Testament shows a litle bit more respect for women and their place in society. I think that christianity has become corrupt, but in the sense that people are caught up in the congregation aspect rather than the religious aspect of christianity, and are begining to miss the point, to fail to see what the main message in the bible really is.
What Is The 'Orthodox' Difference
There is too much hypocrisy expressed,
In religion.
Too much division in it too...
For it to go unobserved.
The existence of 'Christianity'
Is based upon concepts created by the 'Jews'.
And there seems to be a conflict of interests...
When folks of ignorance slander, demean and smear,
Like they do!
Especially when people uphold beliefs,
Similar in nature.
And said to establish foundations...
That are firm in culture, heritage and customs
As solid as concrete!
And who doesn't know concrete eventually crumbles?
What is the 'orthodox' difference...
When Catholics and Jews conduct familiar rituals?
Wear kippahs (yalmulkes) to dentify their strong ties.
Keep people of color submissive and dismissed.
With racist overtones they claim do not exist!
Yet this clearly sits,
To acknowledge those who are hypocrites
There is too much hypocrisy expressed,
In religion.
Too much division in it too...
For it to go unobserved.
NOTE:
Judaism (from the Greek Ioudaïsmos, derived from the Hebrew י ה ו ד ה , Yehudah, 'Judah';
[1] in Hebrew: י ַ ה ֲ ד ו ּ ת , Yahedut, the distinctive characteristics of the Judean ethnos)
[2] is a set of beliefs and practices originating in the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) ,
as later further explored and explained in the Talmud and other texts.
Judaism presents itself as the covenantal relationship between the Children of Israel
(later, the Jewish nation) and God.
It is considered either the first or one of the first monotheistic religions,
and is among the oldest religions still being practised today.
Many of its texts and traditions are central to the other Abrahamic religions,
with Jewish history and the principles and ethics of Judaism having influenced Christianity and Islam,
as well as some non-Abrahamic religions.
As the foundation of Western Christianity,
many aspects of Judaism also correspond to secular Western concepts of ethics and civil law.
Reference: Wikipedia
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Don't Get Your O' Logists Mixed Up
My name is Dermat O' Logist,
An Irishman expert on skin.
My Dad goes by Herb O' Logist,
No slouch at Chinese medicine.
Once as we practised in tandem,
A terrible mix up took place,
A hapless patient at random,
Caused egg to appear on my face.
Cure-wise what he sought was herbal,
But wrongly arrived in with me,
Out came a whole load of verbal,
When implying I'd seen worse acne.
poem by Greg Costello
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Jesus In Messianic Judaism
merging combinations
of philosophical religious
belief still seeking seekers
merging different forms
different inflectional forms
common single form origins
Jesus Christ by John was baptized
in Aramaic into Messianic Judaism
you into Christian denominations?
Messianic Judaism morphs
into contemporary Christianity
movement syncretic religious
arose in ritual American 1960s
adds to evangelical Christian theology
some elements of Jewish terminology
at least 150 Messianic houses
of worship in the United States
by 2003 embrace life teachings
over 400 worldwide members
of larger Messianic organizations?
alliances by 2008 an estimated
6,000 to15,000 members
are living in Israel worshippers
estimated 13 million believers
world wide over ten years
ago; defined themselves
Messianic Jewish believers
this is what the original church
under Jesus Christ originated as
ministry of Jesus was the tribes
only the tribes of Judah and Israel
Paul opened ministry to the Gentiles
but forget numbers on pages places
true worship is sincerity of believers
Messianic Judaism is what at core beliefs?
to Judaism and Islamism idolatrous
Messianic Judaism the Holy Trinity affirms
God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit
are the same Divinity; Judaism Islamism not
Messianic Judaism Jesus is Messiah affirms
Jesus is the Jewish Messiah and God
Jesus Yeshua is Divinity God the Son
Jesus is human-born of the Spirit of God
Judaism Islamism both affirm Jesus is not
Messianic Judaism Holy Spirit affirms
The third person of the Trinity is Holy Spirit
'Spirit' is proclaimed as co-creator with God Genesis 1: 2.
Holy Spirit was active inspiring prophets I Sam 19: 23-24, II Sam.23: 1-3.
Holy Spirit will fall upon whoever God wills
Holy Spirit was dove at baptism of Jesus Matt 3: 16.
Holy Spirit of God was the giver of tongues Acts 2.
Messianic Jews believe in God
Yahweh, Adonai, LORD
omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient
all-powerful, instantaneous everywhere, all knowing
unlimited power, present everywhere, infinite knowledge
eternal exists outside of time creation
infinitely significant and benevolent
omnibenevolent God is perfect goodness
may the Lord be with you upon you always
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Free to Liquor Up and Pray
They've joked themselves
Right into remoteness.
Mintrels of salvation conditioned...
And prepared to say 'cheese'
With the guaranteed backing,
Of an appropriate missionary squeeze.
Promoted to angelic heights...
They have become addicted to and love!
Hoping one day they too will be declared saints,
For a display of good behavior...
Exquisite manners and pristine etiquette!
Wishing to be considered good children,
For the rest of their lives!
That needed 'fix' keeps them affixed
To the crucifix as if their sacrifices
Are ones to be praised.
These actions keep them crazed...
And so entertaining!
In pews praying to be released,
From their own demonic fears applied.
As they request for a more repetitiousness,
To hear Lucifer's name proclaimed from the pulpits!
By ordained and orthodox pimps!
Or whoever adorns a mask representing...
A disguised lust,
Probing the congregation for a mid-week tryst!
'You can handle your sins my brothers and sisters.
Like I fondle my own.
For I too have sinned...
But don't keep those tithes from coming in!
Remember...
The more you give,
The more you will be deceived! '
Shouldn't that be 'received? ',
Reverand Hoodwinker?
'You get my drift!
Just fill my pockets with your love!
That's all I ask! '
And this has kept them insignificant.
With minds stripped and powerless.
Desposited into divine images of ludicrous concepts.
'He's got a new CD out you know? '
Who? Reverand Hoodwinker?
'Ludicrous! I'm one of his biggest fans! '
Stunted they all are...
Between what 'is' real and what does not exist!
This has easily made them their own worse enemies.
Even gathering to march to 'Zion' to denounce injustices!
'We're marching to Zion!
Beautiful, beautful Zion!
We're marching upward to Zion...
That beautiful city of God! '
Hey...
I 'thought' we were Baptists?
'Well,
Zionistically speaking!
Silence...
Keep all heads bowed! '
What has been employed...
Will keep them totally worthless to anyone!
And they will be free to liquor up and pray,
As much as they wish!
To induce uplifting 'spirits'.
poem by Lawrence S. Pertillar
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Jews do not have to be Christians. Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism, but too utopian, too hopeful, too unrealistic a turn.
quote by Michael Novak
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The real evidence for Jesus and Christianity is in how Jesus and the Christianity based on him manifest themselves in the lives of practicing Christians.
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Messianic Judaism Affirms Holy Trinity
true worship is sincerity of believers
Messianic Judaism is what at core beliefs?
to Judaism and Islamism idolatrous
Messianic Judaism the Holy Trinity affirms
God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit
are the same Divinity; Judaism Islamism not
Messianic Judaism Jesus is Messiah affirms
Jesus is the Jewish Messiah and God
Jesus Yeshua is Divinity God the Son
Jesus is human-born of the Spirit of God
Judaism Islamism both affirm Jesus is not
Messianic Judaism Holy Spirit affirms
The third person of the Trinity is Holy Spirit
'Spirit' is proclaimed as co-creator with God Genesis 1: 2.
Holy Spirit was active inspiring prophets I Sam 19: 23-24, II Sam.23: 1-3.
Holy Spirit will fall upon whoever God wills
Holy Spirit was dove at baptism of Jesus Matt 3: 16.
Holy Spirit of God was the giver of tongues Acts 2.
Split imaging from the poem ‘Jesus In Messianic Judaism’ by Terence George Craddock.
poem by Terence George Craddock
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In The Business Of Others
People with a knack,
For keeping their noses...
In the business affairs of others,
Are often surprised and quite upset...
By secrets kept,
Others keep hidden away from them...
That are right under their probing noses.
And they become offended,
When the 'info' to another has been revealed.
'I thought you told me you two weren't speaking? '
~We aren't.
We email and text.
Finding this the best way to communicate.
Without the rest of the people 'twisting' what they hear,
Within listening distance.~
'And...
What are you implying? '
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Rivers Of Babylon
By the rivers of babylon, there we sat down
Ye-eah we wept, when we remembered zion.
By the rivers of babylon, there we sat down
Ye-eah we wept, when we remembered zion.
When the wicked
Carried us away in captivity
Required from us a song
Now how shall we sing the lords song in a strange land
When the wicked
Carried us away in captivity
Requiering of us a song
Now how shall we sing the lords song in a strange land
Let the words of our mouth and the meditations of our heart
Be acceptable in thy sight here tonight
Let the words of our mouth and the meditation of our hearts
Be acceptable in thy sight here tonight
By the rivers of babylon, there we sat down
Ye-eah we wept, when we remembered zion.
By the rivers of babylon, there we sat down
Ye-eah we wept, when we remembered zion.
By the rivers of babylon (dark tears of babylon)
There we sat down (you got to sing a song)
Ye-eah we wept, (sing a song of love)
When we remember zion. (yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah)
By the rivers of babylon (rough bits of babylon)
There we sat down (you hear the people cry)
Ye-eah we wept, (they need their God)
When we remember zion. (ooh, have the power)
song performed by by Boney M.
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