When men can no longer be theists, they must, if they are civilized, become humanists.

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The Burden Of Proof

One says an idol drinks milk.
Others don't believe it.
On whom does the burden of proof fall?

Theists believe God.
Atheists don't.
Scptics believe where there is proof.
Agnostics are unconcerned about it.
The burden of proof is on the theists.

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Theism verses atheism

Belief in God is not theism.
Disbelief in God is not atheism.
Fear of God is theism.
Ignoring God is atheism.
Theists feel they will be protected.
Atheists feel they will not be punished.
Theists invoking the God,
And atheists ignoring the God
Live in the same state of well being.
08.10.2009

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Reverse application

As the wise regard fools as fool
Fools regard the wise as fools.
The theists are fools to the atheists
And atheists, fools to theists
02.10.2007

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Justice, sir, is the great interest of man on earth. It is the ligament which holds civilized beings and civilized nations together.

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Very few of the early Italian humanists were really humane.

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Men as judged by women

A civilized woman in a civilized man
Expects a sense of humour, compassion and
An analytical mind, not a judgmental,
As sexually attributing qualities.
06.10.2004

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Plato

Man...is a tame or civilized animal never the less, he requires proper instruction and a fortunate nature, and then of all animals he becomes the most divine and most civilized but if he be insufficiently or ill- educated he is the most savage of earthly creatures.

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Plato

Man...is a tame or civilized animal; never the less, he requires proper instruction and a fortunate nature, and then of all animals he becomes the most divine and most civilized; but if he be insufficiently or ill- educated he is the most savage of earthly creatures.

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Humanists are not characteristically strong in faith, hope and love.

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Some Notes To Ponder Between Two Life Beginners

Selfish humanists are that way

i don't know
i have to find it out within me

we are supposed to do good
because it is an end in itself
not a means for another end

still learning about myself

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This is always a pain because it's injustice too and so my response to it, I tell you what I am more surprised or horrified at Jews who forget to be humanists than I am at anybody else.

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Belief and disbelief

Belief is the believing something
Of which you are not sure.
Disbelief is the disbelieving
Something you are in doubt of.

Aren’t theists and atheists one?
09.08.2011

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Taxation is the price we pay for failing to build a civilized society. The higher the tax level, the greater the failure. A centrally planned totalitarian state represents a complete defeat for the civilized world, while a totally voluntary society represents its ultimate success.

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Secular humanists suspect there is something more gloriously human about resisting the religious impulse; about accepting the cold truth, even if that truth is only that the universe is as indifferent to us as we are to it.

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Some theists in evolutionary science acquiesce to these tacit rules and retain a personal faith while accepting a thoroughly naturalistic picture of physical reality.

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The civilized society

I am in a civilized society.
No outlet for hatred.
So I watch violence in movies.
No outlet for libido
So I watch blue films.
I am in a civilized society.
08.04.2007

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Most people I know I think agree and even many theists agree with this. We don't want government involved.

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Too Many Have Suppressed Their Depressions

Too many have suppressed their depressions.
And had shied away from expressing they are upset.
Protesters seem to be doing their best,
To be civilized with the hiding of their regrets.
With a wish they had not let themselves,
Gather into the streets to protest a greed.
When those homeless and needing to eat,
And a place to sleep...
Should have long ago sent warnings,
How those who are obviously in need...
Could be easily ignored by those who continue,
To feast as if nothing else is noticed.

Too many have suppressed their depressions.
And no longer shy away from expressing they are upset.
Protesters seem to be doing their best,
To be civilized with the hiding of their regrets...
With a wish they had not let themselves,
Gather into the streets to protest a greed.
Believing themselves to be right.
Because they are mostly...
Well,
Fighters for fading entitlements...
That are being erased from their eyesights.

And if this was not happening to them at all,
It would be poverty as usual...
For 'those' people to experience.
You know...
The ones too lazy to get a job.
Or find a decent wage to feed themselves and families.
Under a roof they can afford.
You know...
'Those' people who had never been accepted,
By the whims of 'them' with their selected druthers.

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Standing Out Reality

I'm living in a civilized nation
Seeing true colours of cultural chime

Black or blue white too
All around the globe god bless you

Let's come together
We will fight
Our natural colours with delight

Civilized nation insight
Looking bright as we fight
For freedom and the guilt or racism...

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Who is a good child?

The child that does not disturb, nor request,
Nor expect, is a good child to father.
The God has no disturbance from atheists.
The theists are a nuisance, God may hold.
13.07.2012

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