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<div style="background:#fff;border:#bbb dashed 1px;padding:5px"><a href="http://en.citatepedia.ro/comments.php?id=398999" style="color:#000;text-decoration:none"><div style="margin:10px 0"><strong>On a Close-up of Louis Esterhuizen, on His Poem “Winnie”</strong></div><div style="margin:10px 0">So tell me Louis, you allege: <br>“I went to look at the remarks<br>found in his biographical sketch: <br>“I love the work of various poets<br>and my favourites are AG Visser, Eugene Marais, <br>Ingrid Jonker, D.J. Opperman, N.P. Van Wyk Louw, <br>William Shakespeare, Dylan Thomas, John Keats, <br>Robert Frost, W.B. Yeats, Yahuda Amichai, <br>Hannah Szenes, Stevie Smith, Dorothy Parker <br>and even Homer.””</div><div style="margin:10px 0">Further you say: “With the exception of a few names<br>under the English favourites, all the Afrikaans poets are experts<br>whom he probably encountered at school, <br>if a person looks at the verses on his page<br>you realise that Mr. X has never grown past the incidental<br>school-contact...In this he is alas not unique.”</div><div style="margin:10px 0">Still you are the great master<br>where it comes to the works of Homer, <br>as you make a comparison <br>in your poem “Winnie” between Me. Winnie Mandela<br>and Homer’s character Penelope, <br>where there are in reality flagrant contrasts<br>and the masters canonise this poem<br>in the “Great Verse Book”<br>without even being aware of the contrasts? </div><div style="margin:10px 0">Let me as just a unfolding poet<br>who “has never grown past<br>the incidental school-contact, ”<br>point out the contrasts clearly: </div><div style="margin:10px 0">The story of Penelope comes<br>out of Homer’s Odyssey where the title<br>indicates a long historical journey or adventure <br>or some wanderings<br>that the main character Odysseus / Ulysses<br>undertakes before again arriving<br>at the island Ithaca<br>where he rules as the king.</div><div style="margin:10px 0">For only a very short while<br>Odysseus / Ulysses is with the nymph Circe<br>on a island, but the greatest part of the book<br>is about his wanderings.</div><div style="margin:10px 0">In flagrant contrast you write: <br>”And Penelope comes forward, impatient<br>and rude as Ulysses is only moving rocks<br>on his island.”</div><div style="margin:10px 0">Where you use the Roman name of Odysseus<br>to describe Nelson Mandela.<br>Your Ulysses is not wandering at that stage<br>or travelling on a historical journey full of adventure<br>he is busy “moving rocks.”</div><div style="margin:10px 0">At that stage your Ulysses<br>isn’t a king, far less<br>your Penelope ever becomes a queen, <br>not even the wife of a president.</div><div style="margin:10px 0">The original Odysseus / Ulysses<br>is only true to one goddess namely Athena<br>who at various times helps him, <br>even in his battles, <br>where your Ulysses divorces your Penelope, <br>takes another wife<br>and marries her as a Christian, a Moslem, a Hindu<br>and also as a Jew.</div><div style="margin:10px 0">Still less the ”UDF, AZAPO and also COSATU; <br>then there’s also the Young Comrades -”<br>are princes and kings who are trying to seduce her.</div><div style="margin:10px 0">Nevertheless you write: <br>“But while the crown-princes are wooing her<br>and the almost-princes gather around her<br>and rollick, the woman plays<br>in the three storey-mansion<br>with her last matches.”</div><div style="margin:10px 0">The real wife of the real Odysseus / Ulysses<br>was not involved with a “Stompie” character<br>who disappeared without a sign<br>and in the Odyssey the property of Odysseus / Ulysses<br>is wasted and devoured, <br>while the princes are fornicating with the maids<br>and Odysseus / Ulysses <br>along with his son Telemachus destroys<br>all of those princes and kings<br>along with the fornicating maids<br>that contrasts flagrantly<br>with the acts of your Ulysses.</div><div style="margin:10px 0">Your Ulysses is moving stones, only walks<br>on his way to freedom a few steps, <br>divorces your Penelope<br>and marries another wife.</div><div style="margin:10px 0">Nonetheless the original Penelope remains true<br>to Odysseus / Ulysses, <br>under the pretext of completing a shroud<br>that she is weaving for her father in law Laertes, <br>of which she continually again frays out the thread<br>and later the two are again together and happy<br>and it is the nearest<br>that you come to the original story: <br>“to again fray out the dream-cloak: <br>Oh, the endless undoing<br>of the endless doing, she lisps.”</div><div style="margin:10px 0">To my opinion your comparison<br>between Me. Winnie and Penelope<br>is rather shallow and totally ungrounded, <br>as their are just too many contrasts<br>that you did not think through</div><div style="margin:10px 0">and now I am wondering <br>who is the person <br>that has “never grown past the incidental<br>school-contact” as far as Homer’s Odyssey is concerned? </div><div style="margin:10px 0"><br>(After Anthony Delius/References: The poem “Winnie” by Louis Esterhuizen, “The Odyssey” by Homer. “On a Close-up of Dirk Opperman, on the Jacket of his Komas” by Anthony Delius.)</div><div style="margin:10px 0"><br /></a><br />poem by <a href="http://en.citatepedia.ro/by.php?a=Gert+Strydom">Gert Strydom</a><div class=q>
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